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Re: #630 - "A Number of Creatures"

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 6:17 pm
by dudeski
On the board. Nice one Matt.

Re: #630 - "A Number of Creatures"

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 6:25 pm
by tonyrobots
hcbirker wrote: Sun Jun 28, 2020 4:51 pm I think I have it. Lots of red herrings in this one.
Come to think of it, that’s a creature I’ve never actually seen, either.

Re: #630 - "A Number of Creatures"

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 6:52 pm
by DrTom
OMG! Someone just pulled back the curtain - What a stroke of genius Matt (and also anyone who solved it). I am indeed shocked and amazed that anybody can even come up with these ideas, but to then put them into a workable crossword grid. I just know Matt laughs like "MWAH HA HA", he is the all powerful MENTO!

I would have worked on this for the rest of my days and perhaps, just perhaps, would have seen what the solvers saw after I exhausted everything else. Still even that is a long-shot. However, this is just one more thing I will remember to try.

Re: #630 - "A Number of Creatures"

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 7:39 pm
by spotter
Beam me up! I fat fingered my submission with a partially typed answer and had to email Matt. Hope it won't take too long to see if I made it on the board!

Re: #630 - "A Number of Creatures"

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 7:49 pm
by Hector
Right there with you spotter, having no more time to devote to this, but in all honesty I might well be added to the several wrong answers this week.

Re: #630 - "A Number of Creatures"

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 8:43 pm
by Djquimby
I have two answers I’m mulling. Each works (to me) in a different way depending on how I interpret the mechanism. Guh. Someone call it in the air for me...

Re: #630 - "A Number of Creatures"

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 8:57 pm
by dudeski
Tails

Re: #630 - "A Number of Creatures"

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 9:19 pm
by Davesteve
Yeesh, been staring at this one for 6 hours and nothing. Just can’t see the mechanism here.

Re: #630 - "A Number of Creatures"

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 10:42 pm
by Laura M
Pretty sure I finally got it after a third (or fourth or maybe seventh) look! If so, I agree that it's amazingly sneaky but not as complicated as one might expect from a week 4. (Of course, all of the complexity in my own head more than made up for that!)

Edit: Beam me up! I wasn't expecting an update at almost 1:00 AM EDT but here we are. I saw several familiar names in the same transport group :-)

Re: #630 - "A Number of Creatures"

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 10:44 pm
by Bird Lives
I have an answer that I'm reluctant to submit. Matt himself allowed that last week's vitamin meta was a "clunker," so I expected that this week's would be elegant. But the answer I have so far seems to have a bit of clunk as well.

I also had assumed that Matt and the WSJ crew composed puzzles weeks ahead of the publicaiotn date. But with the delay in this one, I feel like a middle school kid finding out the teacher too can be late with his homework and has to ask for an extension.

Re: #630 - "A Number of Creatures"

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:30 am
by KayW
Beam me up.

I was beginning to think this would be the meta answer I'd never see. I saw all sorts of creatures as I tried to make this way more complicated than it turned out to be. I'm also missing that final definitive "click" a few other posters referred to, but got my name onto leaderboard without it.

Another remarkable puzzle! Matt said this week’s delay was due to a problem he discovered last-minute with the puzzle he planned to release. I would love to hear the details about that and hope he can share it at some point.

Re: #630 - "A Number of Creatures"

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:10 am
by Bird Lives
I had thought there might be some secondary confirmation -- in the title or somewhere in the grid -- but finding none, I still went with my first hunch. I wasn't wild about it, but apparently it was correct.

Re: #630 - "A Number of Creatures"

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 12:00 pm
by Joe Ross
Very nice meta! It kept me smiling for an hour.

I had the same apprehension as many, initially, which allowed me to accept the answer, but a key clue/answer confirmed it in my mind. Feel free to PM, if you've solved, or wait for noon, Wednesday.

Re: #630 - "A Number of Creatures"

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 1:01 pm
by JordanianTomlinson
My first week 4! I thought this was especially hard - odd how I sailed through the vitamins last week no prob and stared at this one for days until it finally hit me.

Re: #630 - "A Number of Creatures"

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 2:14 pm
by Jacksull
Nice to get a week 4 for a change. But was it a real week 4? I don’t care, I’m counting it as a win.

Re: #630 - "A Number of Creatures"

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 3:02 pm
by Schep
Would greatly appreciate any 11th hour nudge on this one. I think I’m going through a meta crisis, I’ve been struggling to pick up on some of these mechanisms lately. Must be losing it! TIA!

Re: #630 - "A Number of Creatures"

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:14 pm
by Big Mac
On the board. This was... really quick? For some reason it came to me right away this week. I'll take it.

Re: #630 - "A Number of Creatures"

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:21 pm
by CrossedPurposes
I'd appreciate a nudge for this one. Not having much in the way of luck getting anywhere.

Re: #630 - "A Number of Creatures"

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:36 pm
by chnest
In the same boat. Spinning wheels trying to get to the right number of creatures :)

Re: #630 - "A Number of Creatures"

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:20 pm
by Geoduck
Well, I can see all the creatures in the puzzle, but I'm drawing a blank on the one I've never seem .