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MEOW #177 The Odd Couple

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 12:00 am
by Cap'n Rick
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Ahoy, Muggles!

It's great to be back on MEOW and this time with a special treat - a collaboration puzzle with everybody's favorite Aussie - @benchen71! One of the best things about creating meta puzzles is the occasional opportunity to team up with another constructor - particularly one as talented as Ben. Now if you've solved some of our past metas you may have noticed a few differences in our respective styles and techniques. This puzzle, which was rejected at MMM and even at SSS (by that new anal-retentive editor over there :lol:), reflects and even highlights some of those differences. Ben and I hope that you have as much fun solving as we did constructing!

The meta answer is a hyphenated 12-letter term.

The Odd Couple
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Difficulty: Probably a Calico/Persian or 2.5

Nudges are here.
Solution is here.

Good luck!
Rick & Ben

Re: MEOW #177 The Odd Couple

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 8:19 am
by boharr
Cat was outnumbered but not outsmarted. Thanks, guys.

Re: MEOW #177 The Odd Couple

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 9:34 am
by schmidzy
I'm starting to really fear the words "hyphenated x-letter word"! :lol:

Re: MEOW #177 The Odd Couple

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 10:18 am
by Meg
Cat flew out. I hope this isn’t a spoiler, but this puzzle seems perfect for @Wendy Walker.

Re: MEOW #177 The Odd Couple

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 11:01 am
by Bob cruise director
Thoughts as I do this MEOW

Ancestor - is something that is very old like (we'll discuss that later". Ancestor is not something I used in college and the first 5 years of work.

More later

Re: MEOW #177 The Odd Couple

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 11:24 am
by ChrisKochmanski
Bag sans cat!

Much fun!

Re: MEOW #177 The Odd Couple

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 12:44 pm
by ajk
Got it in a second look. Fun stuff, thanks. :)

Re: MEOW #177 The Odd Couple

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 5:31 pm
by woozy
Love the concept and execution and reference to a TV classic.

Had one idea and tried two executions with no luck. Maybe a third....?

Re: MEOW #177 The Odd Couple

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 7:28 pm
by HeadinHome
Had to make more than one guess on Crosshare, but finally hit the right one! Good joint effort, you two!

Re: MEOW #177 The Odd Couple

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 8:58 pm
by Ergcat
Update: I put my MOAT solve in the wrong place!
Cat is still in bag as I am
Still puzzling over “The Odd Couple”!

Re: MEOW #177 The Odd Couple

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:58 am
by Cap'n Rick
Leaderboard - Day 1

Well, @benchen71, according to Crosshare over 100 people have completed the grid, but only 15 (including 4 testers) have solved the meta.

Abide (TS)
whimsy (TS)
Mark Woychick (TS)
DrTom (TS)
Hector
boharr
Meg
ChrisKochmanski
LarsCaine
ajk
Pair O Ducks
JM
HeadinHome
Gutman
Ergcat

How about we give folks an early Nudge to help get things started?

Re: MEOW #177 The Odd Couple

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 9:36 am
by lbray53
The cat is out of the bag! Kudos and thanks to the both of you.

Re: MEOW #177 The Odd Couple

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 9:45 am
by KayW
:crossed_swords: :rabbit: :cat: Couldn't get to this one til this morning. Great debut for this feline ODD COUPLE - thanks!
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Re: MEOW #177 The Odd Couple

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 11:58 am
by MatthewL
Cap'n Rick wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:58 am How about we give folks an early Nudge to help get things started?
Yes, please.

Re: MEOW #177 The Odd Couple

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 12:41 pm
by Cap'n Rick
MatthewL wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 11:58 am
Cap'n Rick wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:58 am How about we give folks an early Nudge to help get things started?
Yes, please.
Well, Ben is probably sleeping now since it's early tomorrow morning in Australia. :D Let me offer up this subtle Nudge to get the ball rolling:

We probably should've made the title "The Odd Couple?"

Re: MEOW #177 The Odd Couple

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 1:25 pm
by woozy
Okay. I have half of it. But just halve

Re: MEOW #177 The Odd Couple

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 5:13 pm
by MatthewL
Cat is finally free and is giving me some serious side eye for it taking so long (needed multiple nudges on this from a kind Muggle, 'cause I just wasn't seeing it). Thanks for the puzzle, Gents!

Re: MEOW #177 The Odd Couple

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 5:15 pm
by whimsy
Throwback Thursday....
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....and out of the gunny sack.

Thanks Rick and Ben!

Re: MEOW #177 The Odd Couple

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 6:12 pm
by benchen71
I had a dream last night that I was posting nudges to this forum. When I awoke this morning (it's currently 8:10am Friday morning, here in Australia), I discovered that I very much should have been posting nudges in real life! And I just can't post one: I'm going to post them all. And then it's up to you, dear struggling solver, how many of these nudges you reveal! :D

So here they are: nudges, in order of increasing blatancy:

1. The puzzle title is your main hint. That said, two clue/entries (18A and 16D) should have drawn your attention to the difference between the left and right side of the grid!

2. Two constructors were responsible for this grid! A hint regarding who did what: the right side constructor *really* should have crossed AHOY with GDAY.

3. The puzzle title should get you looking for a repeated sequence of letters in the grid (which are symmetrically placed, even given the mess on the right side!)

4. A meta involving two constructors really should involve two meta mechanisms!

Re: MEOW #177 The Odd Couple

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 7:27 pm
by hcbirker
Well, I needed the hints, but finally got there. I was looking in the totally wrong direction. Well done gents!